What did Obama say about the Post Office?

[Pineygirl]

A friend posted her disappointment with it on FB (she's an Obama supporter), but I didn't hear anything on the news and nothing appeared in Google. Apparently it happened today while I was out...

[oldhardhead]

President Obama’s “Senior” Moment? - Political Punch

President Obama today suggested that the health care reform legislation for which he’s pushing has been endorsed by the American Association of Retired Person.
“We have the AARP on board because they know this is a good deal for our seniors,” the president said.

At another point he said: “Well, first of all, another myth that we've been hearing about is this notion that somehow we're going to be cutting your Medicare benefits. We are not. AARP would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining Medicare, okay?”

The problem?

The AARP hasn't endorsed any plan yet.

oops.

Here is what he said about the Post Office:

UPS & FEDEX are doing just fine. It's the post office that's always having problems.

GREAT! LET'S GIVE THE GOVERNMENT A CHANCE TO SCREW UP HEALTHCARE AND SO IT HAS PROBLEMS TOO!!!

HAHAHAHahaha!!!!


Seriously.


.

[Pineygirl]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I guess the Teleprompter broke again.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[oldhardhead]

I'm so glad the Obamacare Informative "listening Session" event on TV was not in any way staged and that he got a chance to answer questions from people who are opposed to Obamacare... and that it wasn't just a propaganda show in a room full of supporters. I'm so glad the President listened to the concerns of people. Then I woke up.

I didn't watch the President's "town halls." However, I did hear:

• On the radio in the morning there were people lined up for blocks protesting Obamacare.
• The questions were pre-selected... "by lottery," if you believe it! The number of questions was limited.
• There were no protesters inside.

Well, I suppose I'll have to read the news and look for answers. Good luck getting anything but praise and chants of "Yes, we can" from the Mainstream news. Any more questions? Here is what someone else thought about it:

President Obama should be charged with false advertising for calling yesterday's Portsmouth, N.H., event a "town-hall meeting." It was a staged, partisan campaign rally.

The Portsmouth rally was the first of three such events planned for this week. If nothing else, it was well-choreographed, if not completely scripted. The questions posed to the president were all softballs; his answers were mostly platitudes. Mr. Obama said that he wanted to hear from people who disagree with him because "they need to be heard, too," but it was hard to discern opposing viewpoints through the chants of "Yes, we can."

The purpose of these rallies should be obvious. Mr. Obama is on a promotional tour, not a fact-finding mission.

THAT I believe...

The most insufferable moment of the "town-hall" meeting was when 13-year-old Julia Hall from Malden, Mass., read a question from a card about seeing "a lot of signs outside saying mean things about reform in health care."

What was that?

Pundit Michelle Malkin dubbed young Julia a "kiddie human shield." It's a sad commentary on the health care debate that the president has to resort to this kind of stunt to attempt to insulate his plan from criticism.

Will the blogger do the job the media is unwilling to do? Yep.

The little girl who talked about mean signs at the Obama town hall (Dem plant - proof) , page 1

The second person "randomly" selected to ask a question was a young girl called Julia Hall from Malden MA (asks question at 29m:25s).

Julia read the following question off a piece of paper: "As I was walking in I saw a lot of signs outside saying mean things about reforming healthcare. How do kids know what is true and why do people want a new system that can help more of us".

This randomly asked question gave Obama the perfect opportunity to dismiss talk about "death panels that will pull the plug on Grandma" and to blame Republicans for everything. Over on the town hall comments thread AtomicPunk09 discovered someone on facebook who might possibly be Julia's mother and had a photo of her with Obama:

Michelle Malkin Little girl at Obama town hall has not-so-random political connections

"saying mean things" about his health care proposal.

Julia's mother was an early Obama supporter in Massachusetts during the presidential election, so she had previously met First Lady Michelle Obama, the Obama daughters Sasha and Malia, and Vice President Joe Biden.

"This was my first time meeting Barack Obama, and he's a very nice man," Julia said. "I'm glad I voted for him."

She said Obama won a mock presidential election at the Cheverus School in 2008. And on Tuesday, he approached her after the town meeting.

"He said 'great question,'" Julia said. "I shook his hand and got his picture."

Kathleen Manning Hall, Julia's mother, was shocked when her daughter said she wanted to ask a question. They wrote it down beforehand, and Julia didn't miss a beat when Obama called on her.

"It was surreal," said Manning Hall, a coordinator of Massachusetts Women for Obama during the election.

Manning Hall has donated thousands of dollars to Obama, as has her law firm.

But, you know, um, like Obama said: “I don’t want people saying I just have a bunch of plants in here.”


Oh, goodness. Of course not.

Those donations really paid off big time!!!!!

Just like Chi-town politics.


Obama Kabuki theater in Portsmouth; crowd chants “YES, WE CAN!;” little girl laments “mean things” on protest signs; O lies about single-payer support


Oh, fer cryin' out loud. Why do people believe him?







EDITORIAL: Potemkin town halls - Washington Times




.

[oldhardhead]

Obama seemed to suggest to the townhall meeting crowd that doctors might choose to amputate the feet of diabetics instead of working with the patient on an exercise and diet routine -- because the insurance companies will reimburse more for the surgery than the preventative care.

What do you think???



Remember, that's why doctors remove tonsils -- because the insurance companies will reimburse more for the surgery than other care.

Does he have that low of an opinion of everyone? He's been hanging around criminals (Congress) too long... way too long, I think.

The surgeon isn't the person who would be treating the diabetic in the first place. Obama doesn't know what he's talking about. Someone get him a teleprompter!!!!




Townhall.com Blog : Jonathan Garthwaite : Evil Doctor Alert: Surgeons Are Going To Steal Your Feet

[Arius]

Here's a TRUTH.

When you think you have the flu, a doctor will rarely do a "flu test" (swab of the throat to see if you are shedding the flu virus), but rather they will do a "strep test" (a swab that will show the presence of strep). If the strep comes back negative, they assume then that you have the flu.

Why?

Because they make more money from insurance companies on the strep test then they do on the flu test. Actually, with the negotiated fees insurance companies pay on the flu test, the doctor makes FAR less on flu test than on the strep test.

Do I believe this insinuation? Yes, I do. Doctors make very little money on healthy patients. They make very little money on cures. Rather, they make their money on treatments. So, if they instruct you on the proper ways to prevent the need for treatment, you are much less a profit center than if you contracted an ailment for which treatment was necessary. It isn't personal, it's business.

Most doctors view "preventative" visits to the doctor as nothing more than to find ways to inflict treatment (I use the word "inflict" because that what treatment is). They search for things wrong with you in order to find things to treat because THAT is where they make their profit. It is no different than when you take your car to a mechanic and they search for things to fix. They don't make their money on the "check up", they make their money on the "fix up".

Hospitals make decisions on which diagnostic equipment to buy not on what can help the patient, but on what can diagnose the most ailments to treat in the most cost effective way. Again, health does not make the hospital any money, disease and ailment does. It is one reason I give the AMA very little credibility in matters of health. Health does NOT help their bottom line.

As for your meaningless and obviously uneducated tonsils reference, you can bet your bottom dollar that if a drug was invented that treated (but not cured) tonsillitis, your doctor would NEVER require surgery. They would only promote a regiment of diet and exercise that would prevent tonsillitis if the surgery currently used was not profitable because IF you contracted tonsillitis they have no choice but to treat it, and that treatment currently means surgery. If only a drug was invented that cured it without surgery, boy they would be all over that.

Do you ever hear about the effects of diet and lifestyle on something like diabetes in public service announcements? Not likely, since the pharmaceutical makes huge profits on the treatment of diabetes. That is why a cure for cancer is unlikely in our current system...there are too many profits to be made on treatment. As long as there are huge profits to be made on treatments, cures will always take a back seat. Imagine if there was a real treatment for polio, Salk's vaccine would have never seen the light of day. If you will notice, most of the vaccines that have rendered debilitating diseases benign were founded a long time ago when profit was not as much of a concern of the medical community as was health.

The surgeon isn't the person who would be treating the diabetic in the first place. Obama doesn't know what he's talking about. Someone get him a teleprompter!!!!

Oh boy...you need to educate yourself.

The reason the surgeon would be involved is because there is no cure for the gangrene associated with diabetes. Foot problems are a side effect of the disease, and an injury to the foot often requires amputation because there is no effective treatment for a diabetic with a foot infection. So YES, the surgeon IS the one treating the diabetic, for the only cure is surgical amputation.

Perhaps you need a teleprompter or a conservative blog to teach you some facts? We know conservative blogs rarely teach you facts...which is why you have no clue.

[oldhardhead]

Obama Goes Postal, Lands in Dead-Letter Office

Aug. 18 (Bloomberg) -- “UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. It’s the Post Office that’s always having problems.” -- Barack Obama, Aug. 11, 2009

The Post Office?

The only way the post office can stay in business is its government subsidy. The USPS lost $2.4 billion in the quarter ended in June and projects a net loss of $7 billion in fiscal 2009, outstanding debt of more than $10 billion and a cash shortfall of $1 billion. It was moved to intensive care -- the Government Accountability Office’s list of “high risk” cases - - last month and told to shape up.

So we are being told that they want a Government Healthcare option, just like the Post Office. Congress and the President haven't figured out how to pay for it.

Why do we need or want a health-care system that works like the post office?

What’s more, if the USPS is struggling to compete with private companies, as Obama implied, why introduce a government health-care option that would operate at the same disadvantage?

Good questions...

Impromptu Obamanomics is getting scarier by the day. For all the president’s touted intelligence, his un-teleprompted comments reveal a basic misunderstanding of capitalist principles.

Could be. I wonder how he did in economics class and what was the premise... Keynesian economics?

“If the private insurance companies are providing a good bargain, and if the public option has to be self-sustaining -- meaning taxpayers aren’t subsidizing it, but it has to run on charging premiums and providing good services and a good network of doctors, just like any other private insurer would do -- then I think private insurers should be able to compete.”

Self-sustaining? The public option? What has Obama been doing during those daily 40-minute economic briefings coordinated by uber-economic-adviser, Larry Summers?

More questions...

“The only reason for a government service is precisely to provide financial support for an operation that is otherwise unsustainable, or else there would be no point in the government’s involvement at all.”

Unless those in power want more power... Bwwwaaaaahh-hahahahahaha!!!!

The proliferation of Obama’s gaffes and non sequiturs on health care has exceeded the allowable limit. He has failed repeatedly to explain how the government will provide more (health care) for less (money). He has failed to explain why increased demand for medical services without a concomitant increase in supply won’t lead to rationing by government bureaucrats as opposed to the market. And he has failed to explain why a Medicare-like model is desirable when Medicare itself is going broke.

The public is left with one of two unsettling conclusions: Either the president doesn’t understand the health-insurance reform plans working their way through Congress, or he understands both the plans and the implications and is being untruthful about the impact.

Neither option is good; ignorance is clearly preferable to the alternative.

How can he know what's in the bills in Congress? Even members of Congress haven't read them!



.

[Pineygirl]

OHH, your post makes so much sense the questions should be obvious to a six-year-old. However, the left is so set on having a government nanny state, where everyone is taken care of LIKE a six-year-old, that they will not listen. I have given up.

I am tired beyond belief of being called "closed-minded," when I and several other conservatives have considered the ideas of others before accepting or rejecting them. Those on the left cannot see that they have not even considered one of our ideas. Not one. They reject them out of hand, and therefore, are the ones who are demonstrating that they're closed-minded.

I'm beginning to think that the world is headed toward a one-world, government-run, nanny society and that there's little to nothing that can be done to stop it, because people like Arius, GL, and Faux SheriB demand it, and their voices are louder than ours.

I agree with Blocker on many of his postings except for the reason behind the reason that all of this is happening. In any case, we come out to approximately the same point.

I consider the next four or five years to be some of the most interesting the world has ever seen. I pray that we conservatives are wrong. I really do. Because the alternative will be too horrible to contemplate -- and there will be no turning back.

[oldhardhead]

Originally Posted by Pineygirl

OHH, your post makes so much sense the questions should be obvious to a six-year-old. However, the left is so set on having a government nanny state, where everyone is taken care of LIKE a six-year-old, that they will not listen. I have given up.

I am tired beyond belief of being called "closed-minded," when I and several other conservatives have considered the ideas of others before accepting or rejecting them. Those on the left cannot see that they have not even considered one of our ideas. Not one. They reject them out of hand, and therefore, are the ones who are demonstrating that they're closed-minded.

I'm beginning to think that the world is headed toward a one-world, government-run, nanny society and that there's little to nothing that can be done to stop it, because people like Arius, GL, and Faux SheriB demand it, and their voices are louder than ours.

I agree with Blocker on many of his postings except for the reason behind the reason that all of this is happening. In any case, we come out to approximately the same point.

I consider the next four or five years to be some of the most interesting the world has ever seen. I pray that we conservatives are wrong. I really do. Because the alternative will be too horrible to contemplate -- and there will be no turning back.

One-world... Canada moves toward private health care. We move toward socialized health care. We meet in the middle. Equality! I'm kidding, of course.

I heard a discussion this morning that make me think... the majority of people consider themselves conservatives. Capitalism better than Socialism. The numbers change quite a bit when just the younger people were considered.

Churchill said something like:
"If you are over 30 and not a conservative you don't have a brain, if you are under 25 and not liberal you don't have a heart."

That might explain part of it, but... how many of today's young associate Socialism with Gulags? Stalin? People just disappearing? Bread lines? Lines for toilet paper?

It's all about what the future holds for the young crowd.

If they think healthcare is expensive, wait until it's free!!!

HAHAHHAHahaha!!!

"their voices are louder than ours." That's what I meant when I asked who do you think of when you hear "political activist?" The left or the right? The conservatives aren't "organizing" people and busing them to town hall meetings, it's spontaneous. Hopefully the Conservatives... well, hopefully the sleeping giant wakes up. If Obama succeeds in doing that, I would be grateful.

I thank President Clinton and his tax-hiking self for the 94 election results!






.

[Arius]

Originally Posted by Pineygirl

OHH, your post makes so much sense the questions should be obvious to a six-year-old. However, the left is so set on having a government nanny state, where everyone is taken care of LIKE a six-year-old, that they will not listen. I have given up.

LOL government nanny state...you mean one that protects you like you are a child? One that keeps your town the way YOU want it?

Scary...this conservative circle jerk seems to have gotten into a frenzy. It reminds me of the historical lessons I learned when the GOP was a liberal party...it tried to effect change...it tried to correct a wrong...and it caused a civil war.

One day this nation will have universal care whether you like it or not. It is the EVOLUTION of this society. It may take time, but it will happen...just as the one world government will happen...societies and civilizations cannot survive without such an evolution. The blind will die off leaving those who can see behind, and as a result of this your offspring will see you as we now view the pro-slavery movement of the 19th century. Obsolete. Misguided. Wrong.

Oh well, as long as the dumb are alive in our midst this society cannot move forward. Too bad, we were on the verge of greatness. Now we are just on the verge. We can thank the party of the rich and those who worship greed: the GOP.

Now this isn't saying that universal care is dead. It is just saying that I am getting tired of hearing you guys cry about it. But hey, as long as you have insurance and a boss to suck teat from, who cares, right? Sad, but that is what you have become. Sad.