Cheney was right!

[Arius]

Sheri, do you find that absence of understanding that they have relevant to our own societal issues? I mean imagine if someone from ACORN was on here talking about them they way they talked about ethnic groups, or worst of all, Piney's rants about "coloreds"!

Jesus, they can't even take jokes...and they expect others to sit back and PEACEFULLY take their ignorance and bigotry. Wow is all I can say.

A telling response to my Jesus joke from PR1. Jesus offered forgiveness and love to those who had tortured him and were driving nails in his flesh, and somehow PR1 thinks Jesus wouldn't forgive my joke! It tells us where their minds are! Their lord proved how great love can be and all they can do is threaten and live a life of bigotry and intolerance! Wow again.

Well, be well, enjoy the evening and the AM.

[Arius]

So, after a moment's reflection it seems much is clearly proven by this thread.

Most of us see the present through the distortion of the past. Because of this, most of us will never see what really is because what really is to them is not real, it is a projection of the past repeating itself. Yet, when they are held up to the same standard, they rebel.

So why would it be odd that those African Americans who lived through the oppressive 20th century would not see white America in the same light? They still see an America who lynches them, who segregates them at the lunch counter, who makes them sit at the back of the bus, and who pays them much less for hard labor than it does white America, so why - or rather how - can we who judge them through what we see in the past fault them for judging or acting as if they are still in it? It seems again we throw stones from glass houses.

And yes, the vision of the past for African Americans is passed down through the generations. Only we can change who the future looks by not giving those who have suffered under the hands of oppression a feeling as if they still are. I am hopeful, as I see a much different racial interaction between my children's generation and my own, that we are not breeding mirrors of ourselves, but thoughtful, understanding, compassionate and PEACEFUL children. This is the hope for America.

It is evident that when YOU (or me) have to use offensive behavior despite the feelings of others, or through action prevent others from being equal to you, that YOU (or me) is coming from a position of inferiority. WE who offend or oppress have one of two conditions it would seem: we either feel inferior and are striving for some semblance of superiority, or we feel inferior because we are having the attachment to what makes us feel superior challenged. It would seem our egoic need to be superior generates all kinds of false realities, and does so through the lens of the past.

There is a spiritual belief that everything you feel now is not new...it is generated by the past. It is also widely held that enlightenment is, in part, feeling as if EVERYTHING is being felt for the very first time. You now longer see now through the past, you see now for now. In this, you no longer cede importance to the past or the future.

It is also widely known that those who live in the past are doomed to repeat it. I, for one, understanding and being a student of history, have no need to relive that misery.

[Pineygirl]

I finally read this entire thread (was busy yesterday) and now I'M confused. This is what I wrote:

Our first experiences with the new "colored people" (as we called them then) were good.

"New" refers to new neighbors, not "new colored" as one jackoff has posted. And I purposely used the term in effect back then. The jackoff is obviously oblivious to the English language. Either that or his mental problems prevent him from reading anything but what fits into his limited intellectual ability.

As for the differences between the ethnic jokes and the ones the jackoff wrote, if it has to be explained to him, he's really stupid. Actually, to even have the ability to come up with what he did speaks volumes about HIS mental state, not anyone else's.

I'm also confused because I thought the jackoff gave up violence 20 years ago. At least that what he claimed five years ago. Now it's only four -- some serious, serious mental issues going on. I pity his family.

[proudrepub1]

Originally Posted by Pineygirl

I finally read this entire thread (was busy yesterday) and now I'M confused. This is what I wrote:



"New" refers to new neighbors, not "new colored" as one jackoff has posted. And I purposely used the term in effect back then. The jackoff is obviously oblivious to the English language. Either that or his mental problems prevent him from reading anything but what fits into his limited intellectual ability.

As for the differences between the ethnic jokes and the ones the jackoff wrote, if it has to be explained to him, he's really stupid. Actually, to even have the ability to come up with what he did speaks volumes about HIS mental state, not anyone else's.

I'm also confused because I thought the jackoff gave up violence 20 years ago. At least that what he claimed five years ago. Now it's only four -- some serious, serious mental issues going on. I pity his family.

Piney,

I apologize for the post I angrily wrote. I was infuriated by the attack on someone I value as a friend. There is no excuse for my vile rant. I am embarrassed and sorry for the offensive and crude remarks. There really was no need to even acknowledge that ignorant post. As of today I too am done with him and his posts. OHH, Blocker, Henry, Lsn and the other posters I enjoy posting with, please accept my apologies for losing my temper. I should have been a bigger person. I can handle the shots at me, no problem. But I took serious offense to Him posting such nasty comment directed at Piney. Again I am sorry for reacting the way I did.

[Pineygirl]

Originally Posted by proudrepub1

Piney,

I apologize for the post I angrily wrote. I was infuriated by the attack on someone I value as a friend. There is no excuse for my vile rant. I am embarrassed and sorry for the offensive and crude remarks. There really was no need to even acknowledge that ignorant post. As of today I too am done with him and his posts. OHH, Blocker, Henry, Lsn and the other posters I enjoy posting with, please accept my apologies for losing my temper. I should have been a bigger person. I can handle the shots at me, no problem. But I took serious offense to Him posting such nasty comment directed at Piney. Again I am sorry for reacting the way I did.

No need to apologize, proudrep. I was secretly cheering you on

Those of us who have been posting for several years remember the various transformations that went from "normal" to angry, to ego-renouncing, to love-thy-neighbor, back to angry, to outright crazy.

I even enjoyed debating with Sportsnut (wonder where he got to?), even though he and I never agreed on anything. He, at least, was rational and had a great sense of humor.

I love Blocker's and OHH's posts because I actually learn something new, or in OHH's case, get a great laugh. Henry doesn't post enough anymore, but I enjoy his posts. And I love discussing issues with you because you "get it."

I look forward to more discussions with Lsn, because he already has presented some great insights!

[oldhardhead]

(read quote carefully)
What is this "we" stuff, kemosabe? Speak for yourself,

Originally Posted by Arius The Great

I believe we often attempt to disregard the feelings of others in order to reinforce our own feeling of superiority. In other words, we actually have an inferiority complex that needs to prove to others, and ourselves, how wonderful we are because we can disregard their feelings. In this, we then wish for them to be as great as we [think we] are...

I see, said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw... That explains a lot.

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Arius, here is one example of how far off the reservation your posts are:

Originally Posted by proudrepub1

Now to the Jesus joke. I will let him be the judge and jury for that one. He has a good sense of humor.

Originally Posted by Arius

A telling response to my Jesus joke from PR1. Jesus offered forgiveness and love to those who had tortured him and were driving nails in his flesh, and somehow PR1 thinks Jesus wouldn't forgive my joke! It tells us where their minds are! Their lord proved how great love can be and all they can do is threaten and live a life of bigotry and intolerance! Wow again.

1. Arius, that's why I think you just make stuff up. You have no credibility.
2. Yeah, okey-dokey. That's where "their" minds are... as your bigotry stereotypes all of... you know, "them."

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[oldhardhead]

Here is another test for Obama: Gitmo.

White House officials last week tried to downplay their decision to postpone by six months a key report on what to do with Guantánamo detainees when the facility is shut down.

Downplay their decision. How did they do that?

The White House announced last week's report delay in a late-afternoon press briefing that was embargoed until 9 p.m.—late enough to keep the disclosure off the network news and the cable talk shows with the highest ratings.

Manipulate the news, use the news cycle!

Democrats are growing skeptical. "I don't think they know what to do," complains Rep. Jim Moran of Virginia, who backs shutting Gitmo. [...] But the State Department has found few countries willing to take them, and Defense Intelligence Agency officials have raised concerns about some of those who have been cleared, according to another administration official.

They stopped calling them "enemy combatants," what is next?

Well, it was only a matter of time. The Obama administration has decided to abandon the term “enemy combatants” to describe the jihadi suspects at Guantanamo Bay. Makes sense. After all, Attorney General Eric Holder’s former law firm has been calling the Gitmo detainees by a different name for a while now: "Clients."

Let the re-branding begin. Bucktown Dusty suggests the DOJ will start calling them “Undocumented Protagonists”; suicide bombers will be “Next Life Enablers.”

HAHAHAhahaha!!!!




Gitmo Woes | Newsweek National News | Newsweek.com

Obama to re-brand “enemy combatants”

[Pineygirl]

And to think we have three and a half years to go...

[Arius]

Originally Posted by oldDEADhead

(read quote carefully)
What is this "we" stuff, kemosabe? Speak for yourself,

I am speaking for myself when I say "I believe"...

I see, said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw... That explains a lot.

Does it?

Arius, that's why I think you just make stuff up. You have no credibility.

You seem to think I need it. Whatever you think, nothing changes...

Yeah, okey-dokey. That's where "their" minds are... as your bigotry stereotypes all of... you know, "them."

As well as you, or they, know me or the "coloreds" or anyone else they base judgments on. I was hoping that by acting like you you would see how wrong the actions are, but give a blind man and hammer and saw...

And if you look VERY closely, and without bias, you will see that I am only acting like you, or PR1, or Piney or the host of others who can't take the heat of the mirror. I have no other purpose on here, but ultimately you guys are shunning the exact copy of you in the actions although not in the thought.

Ultimately, since I am but a character on this forum, you have to decide if it is this character you don't like or that part of you that is this character. It gives you a chance to change, and with it change the world around you. I don't really have any other needs on here, so having credibility or friends or post numbers or titles or anything else has no bearing on anything.

Let alone the need to protect a "friend" on here. That seems an important psychological point.

Anyway, this forum has given me many things to ponder as I participate in it and observe. In that I find its only importance.

[Pineygirl]

Reality is the culmination of the perception of truth from the angle aligned with the egocentric factors of lucidity and perspicacity.

It derives solely from the individual approach to the unique force, that specialized function of the self that arises when one or more individuals perceive what they believe to be the same event.

It is remarkable that certain individuals appear to be endowed with the unique force, which independently and robustly provides a specialized perceptory function within the framework of synchronicity. Commentators have observed this phenomenon for many years, and continue to study its effects, both in perceived reality and in objective formats.

One is left to wonder what long-range effects the unique force will have on certain individuals, many of whom are considered to have an almost psychic ability to interact or align themselves with an idiosyncratic form of objective observation.