PennJersey.info Forums - Politics http://www.pennjersey.info/forums Share your political views en Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:09:39 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg PennJersey.info Forums - Politics http://www.pennjersey.info/forums Rationing http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13134-rationing.html Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:32:37 GMT Communist dictator Hugo Chávez is moving toward rationing food in
Venezuela. They already do it in communist Cuba.


Venezuela introduces Cuba-like food card - Venezuela - MiamiHerald.com


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Presented by President Hugo Chávez as an instrument to make shopping for groceries easier, the ``Good Life Card'' is making various segments of the population wary because they see it as a furtive attempt to introduce a rationing card similar to the one in Cuba.

The measure could easily become a mechanism to control the population, according to civil society groups.

``We see that in short-term this could become a rationing card probably similar to the one used in Cuba,'' Roberto León Parilli, president of the National Association of Users and Consumers, told El Nuevo Herald. ``It would use more advanced technological means [than those used in Cuba], but when they tell you where to buy and what the limits of what you can buy are, they are conditioning your purchases.'' [...]

Former director of Venezuela's Central Bank, Domingo Maza Zavala, said this could become a rationing card that would limit your purchases in light of the country's recurring problems with supplies.
Rationing. Think about it.





. ]]> Politics oldhardhead http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13134-rationing.html Loopholes as big as the UN Building for Corporation and Legislative Charities http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13131-loopholes-big-un-building-corporation-legislative-charities.html Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:04:08 GMT See, that's how the Democrats work. 2007 they put a bill in to stop Corporations from donating to campaigns under a controlled regulations. BUT lo and behold in the fine print you have this loophole where corporations can donate to a charity in turn money will be forward to the re-election campaign for Democrats.

Oh they are very scared. They are collecting from all over to buy off angry constituents in their home towns. Typical Democratic Plan.

What hope and change we have here.

Congressional Charities Are Pulling In Corporate Cash - NYTimes.com ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13131-loopholes-big-un-building-corporation-legislative-charities.html Obama Reports to UN that forming Unions is a Human Right http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13130-obama-reports-un-forming-unions-human-right.html Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:03:54 GMT Unions in bed with the Democrats to inflict their UNIONS on everything. It's a human rights issue if you don't join a Union? That American citizens are bad if they don't want to be part of a union?

This is a cornerstone of the UN Charter.

Wake up People. You don't wake up soon, you will be forced to be a government employee whether you like it or not. This is the Democratic UN Plan making all of it's citizens beholden to the Federal Government's welfare system. And no matter how you look at it, that's all it is... A Government welfare system.

Obama Reports America To U.N On Human Rights Abuse Over ? ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13130-obama-reports-un-forming-unions-human-right.html US Afghanistan Training. How much will it cost the US? http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13129-us-afghanistan-training-how-much-will-cost-us.html Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:30:49 GMT Yep, plenty. And it won't stop. Iraq won't stop either.

No wonder the rest of the world hates us. Here we go again, forcing our ways of life on to a country that has been established for centuries. Now we are going to go in and institute our law?

So where's the change Obama? You are doing exactly what Bush did and you said was wrong. But then you turn around and are doing the same thing.

No brain, no sense, no feeling. And refuses to discuss debt.


US expects to subsidize Afghan training for years | Political Headlines | Comcast.net ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13129-us-afghanistan-training-how-much-will-cost-us.html Obama calling for more spending... to help the Unions http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13128-obama-calling-more-spending-help-unions.html Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:22:14 GMT Gee, the Democratically controlled Regress and Obama looking to help the Unions AGAIN.

Gee why won't this guy bring up debt? That he is incurring. Oh I'm sorry, It's all Bush's fault. How dare I state Obama's Change is a fraud.

Oh well, a wise man wants told me. "No brain, no sense, no feeling". Obama, what a feeling.


Obama Calls for $50 Billion Dollar Spending Boost | The Blaze ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13128-obama-calling-more-spending-help-unions.html The Making of a Dependent Electorate - Example: New Jersey http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13127-making-dependent-electorate-example-new-jersey.html Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:17:19 GMT Excellent Article. Don't look now, but this Obama's Plan. And New Jersey has been it's pilot program.

Sanctuary State is an understatement. Full Democratic Control for how long? Too long. Way too long.

Just look at what's occurring around you, then re-read the article. You will connect many dots.


The Making of a Dependent Electorate
By Daniel Greenfield Monday, September 6, 2010

imageEverything the Obama Administration has done, was for the purpose of creating a dependent electorate. A people that would have no choice but let them wield as much power as they want, without a word of protest.

The dependent electorate represents the hijacking of America. It aims for a major power shift that takes power from the people and gives it to the government. Traditionally the people were dependent on the government.

The American Experiment reversed the locus of control by making the government dependent on the people instead. This served as a natural hedge against tyranny by devaluing government as a means of controlling the population. And that has been the basic grievance of the progressives against America, that our system makes it possible to monopolize commercial power, but not political power. Yet for all the left’s revisionist histories of America… of the two, a monopoly on political power is far more dangerous than commercial monopolies are.

The potential power of government is limited only by its dependencies. The less dependent government is, the more unlimited its power becomes. And the advocates of revising the American system to allow government to wield virtually unlimited power, have always known that their chief obstacle is the Constitutional limitations on the amount of power they can wield and their need to garner support from the electorate in order to be able to overturn them.
An independent electorate is the single biggest threat to the unchecked accumulation of government power

An independent electorate is the single biggest threat to the unchecked accumulation of government power. Which is why creating a dependent electorate is the goal of those who want to change the balance of power between the people and their government. There are many methods, but only one goal. Playing divide and conquer by subdividing society into exploitable groups, all taught to look to the government to protect them from each other, is one way. An all out war on economic independence in order to create deprivation and dependency on government social safety nets is another. Both are ways that advocates of unlimited government power cultivate a dependent electorate that looks to them for protection.

The entire debate over amnesty and illegal aliens from Mexico is yet another demonstration of the same principle. Preventing states near the border from cracking down on illegal aliens, makes the existing overdrawn social service systems in those states unsustainable, requiring Federal intervention. Since those states also tend to be more conservative and entrepreneurial, regular amnesty programs can turn those same illegal aliens into US citizens, who will nevertheless be hopelessly dependent on social services programs. Importing a dependent electorate with nothing on their minds but to vote themselves Bread and Circuses is of course a signed blank check for unlimited government power.

Transforming immigration from a way to import a labor force to help maintain a vital economy, into a stream of migrants draining social services and raising taxes on actual workers and companies is symptomatic of an agenda that calls for changing a country based on free enterprise, into one based on government handouts. Unionization and minimum wage laws ensure that there will be a two tier labor economy, one legal and one illegal. But both subsidized by taxpayers. Taxpayers subsidize the illegal labor economy through social services, and the legal one through the inflated salaries of unions.

The absurdity of the situation is highlighted when you realize that the bureaucracy is full of unionized case workers handling the social services of illegal aliens. Taxpayers not only pay for the social services themselves, but they pay the salaries of unionized social services workers too. The legal and the illegal economy meet, shake hands and then gets mugged in the park. But both groups are only cogs in the machine whose final product is a dependent electorate. The ballooning government bureaucracy makes free enterprise into an unworkable proposition. Companies outsource their labor, and keep their corporate offices in the states, while donating money to liberal candidates who ensure that free enterprise in America continues to be unworkable. It’s one way to muffle any potential domestic competition before it even gets started.
The breakup of the family is yet another means of maintaining a dependent electorate

The breakup of the family is yet another means of maintaining a dependent electorate. Multi-generational families are self-supporting entities, both for moral and practical reasons. Breaking up self-supporting entities that are not dependent on the state is a priority. And when the broken units of the family structure try to function, the state is there to pick up the pieces, acting in loco parentis for the children, and in place of the children for their aging parents. The state becomes the perpetual parent of adult children, and the guardian of their parents, the husband of single mothers and the father of their children. The state becomes the family, which empowers it to become a true nanny state.

Dependency breeds complacency and an unquestioning attitude. We are more willing to challenge people whom we are not dependent on, than those whom we are dependent on. And the more their dependency on the state increases, the less many people are willing to challenge the limits of its authority.

In an age where the government is obsessed with what people eat, how much they weigh, what containers they put their trash in and what their carbon footprint is—Prohibition seems almost nostalgically libertarian by comparison. Children growing up today may find the idea that government could ban all liquor to be strange—yet they live in a world where the government bans everything from lawn darts to sugary drinks in the name of the public good. The War on Drugs is almost a sideline, to what really should be called, the War on Everything. There are so many federal regulations that it is impossible to keep track of them. And every time congressmen sit down in their chairs, thousands and thousands of them roll off the legislative assembly line, often without the people who are passing them even being aware of it.

But what is the good of power if you don’t use it? A system that channels vast amounts of power, attracts huge numbers of camp followers, from aides to lobbyists to activists eager to channel that power in a direction of their choosing. And so you get a vastly powerful government that hardly knows what it’s going, because it has become a vehicle for the usurpation of individual rights at the hands of numberless political interests. All this divides a country into two classes, the same two classes that exist under every totalitarian regime, backward tribal society and decaying socialist bureaucracy—those who have access to power, and those who don’t.

In a system where there is no limit on government, meritocracy becomes a hunted animal, and oligarchy is the king of the beasts. Meritocracy works when the system has objective laws that provide equality for all. But unlimited government power always results in inequality, no matter how much its champions insist that it is a tool for ending inequality. Because power corrupts. And human beings are a corruptible species. Given vast amounts of power, they will use it for their own aims, and those of their friends. The law becomes a joke. When government power is unlimited, free enterprise withers and dies, because the only commodity that matters anymore is access to power.
This is the looting of America

This is the looting of America. And it is the aim and ambition of those who hide behind noble ideals, which always lead them to the same place, radicalism followed by corruption and dysfunction, followed by tyranny. Tyranny being the logical solution to the chaos created by an attempt to impose an artificial system of social morality on economics as implemented by English Lit and Environmental Science majors. And all they need to reach this point is a dependent electorate, a people willing to give them power, to trade their freedom and independence for economic security.

May we not permit ourselves to become that people ever again. ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13127-making-dependent-electorate-example-new-jersey.html BMI coming to you through Obama Care http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13126-bmi-coming-you-through-obama-care.html Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:02:34 GMT BMI: Body Mass Index

Now Mrs. Obama is tauting that the Government through health care will watch over your body mass. I wonder what the PC weight will be. You know, we will all be required to meet that weight. You know Mrs. Obama knows best. The Government will save us all.

And look Mrs. Obama wants to give out prescriptions to these kids that are fat. That's right, just throw drugs at the problem. Help out those campaign contributors.

Boy this is really putting the health care issue into the people's hands right?

Yep, Big Brother Government telling all how to be healthy and what weight is best to be. Kind of like what the UN Charter wants.

Big Mother: FLOTUS Tells Doctors to Write Prescriptions for Your Fat Kids | The Blaze ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13126-bmi-coming-you-through-obama-care.html Democrat accomplishments http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13124-democrat-accomplishments.html Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:29:11 GMT Democrat accomplishments
LOL.

Quote:
The candidate was outraged - just outraged - at the country's sorry fiscal state.
OUTRAGED! Was he a TEA Party type?

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"We have managed to acquire $13 trillion of debt on our balance sheet," he fumed to a roomful of voters. "In my view, we have nothing to show for it."
No wonder he is angry. Sounds like what "they" call an angry right-wing republican...

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And that was a Democrat, Sen. Michael Bennet of Colorado, who voted "yes" on the stimulus, the health-care overhaul, increased education funding and other costly bills Congress approved under his party's control.
HAHAHAHAHahahaha!!!! How come the Democrats aren't bragging about their accomplishments such as the recession, high unemployment, the stimulus, the health-care overhaul, increased education funding and other costly bills?

How many voters will be suckered into believing their campaign rhetoric?

Democrats add fiscal austerity as a campaign issue

Democrat's fiscal austerity? HAHAHAHAHahahaha! JUMBO SHRIMP!!!!

Do the Democrats realize how much they effed up?

Analysts: White House Panicking Over Elections - Face The Nation - CBS News

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Smith asked his guests to try to identify the source of the discontent: "From your experience on the Hill, have you heard any Democrats in private conversations say, 'You know what? We went down the wrong road. We went after health care. We went after so many other things on the Obama agenda as opposed to, in the end of the day, it's all about creating jobs?'"

"Not only have we heard that, but we've been hearing it for months," said Cordes. "We heard it during the health care debate that dragged on for a year when the economy was so bad; they focused on health care and they focused on financial regulation. [...]

"Not a single Democrat has run an ad in support of the health care bill since April," VandeHei noted.
Huh. You don't say. Not a single ad? :popcorn:
They haven't changed one iota.

My Way News - Obama calling for more infrastructure spending

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WASHINGTON (AP) - Vowing to find new ways to stimulate the sputtering economy, President Barack Obama will call for long-term investments in the nation's roads, railways and runways that would cost at least $50 billion.

The infrastructure investments are one part of a package of targeted proposals the White House is expected to announce in hopes of jump-starting the economy ahead of the November election. Obama will outline the infrastructure proposal Monday at a Labor Day event in Milwaukee.

While the proposal calls for investments over six years, the White House said spending would be front-loaded with an initial $50 billion to help create jobs in the near future.
$50 billion "shovel ready" money to Unions. They haven't changed one iota.

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"We have managed to acquire $13 trillion of debt on our balance sheet," he fumed to a roomful of voters. "In my view, we have nothing to show for it."
. ]]> Politics oldhardhead http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13124-democrat-accomplishments.html How the DEMS try to Discredit Glen Beck http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13117-how-dems-try-discredit-glen-beck.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:46:08 GMT Amazing how words are spun to make it look fradulent. Gee I know all about that. But anyway, before you read this article, if you do, remember Mr. Clinton demanding, not asking, I said demanding, the court's definition of the word is.

Same old tactics. Just different faces.

Keep going Mr. Beck. I don't believe in your religion stuff, but I do believe that you are a true Patriot.

Beck Admits Olbermann Caught Him in | The Blaze ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13117-how-dems-try-discredit-glen-beck.html People in California already voiced their opinon on this http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13115-people-california-already-voiced-their-opinon.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 12:41:55 GMT See people, it's no longer what the people voted for and wanted. It's about those forcing their views down someone else's throat.

Just like Arizona and illegal immigration.

It's no longer "Of the People, By the People, For the People."

Its FOR THE VOTING BLOCK ONLY!

California Court Refuses to Force State to Defend Gay Marriage Ban ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13115-people-california-already-voiced-their-opinon.html Shell Companies for more Federal Dollars http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13114-shell-companies-more-federal-dollars.html Sat, 04 Sep 2010 12:28:52 GMT Guys are getting like Acorn. Starting more shit. Taking more federal dollars to waste. No accountability.

So how can Obama say he's better than Bush and there's change when this company got more money for Afghanistan to do more damage?

Report: Blackwater created shell companies | General Headlines | Comcast.net ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13114-shell-companies-more-federal-dollars.html And only Republicans Flip Flop? http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13102-only-republicans-flip-flop.html Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:55:58 GMT I'm still laughing. Thank you for this video on Frank trying to justify Freddie Mac and Fannie May failure. (Think it's the 3rd one. There are a few videos on Frank)

The Flip Flop Meter is the kicker.

But Frank is just another Pathetic Democratic Finger Pointer.

Barney Frank: GOP Ranks Obama Inauguration With 9/11 Pearl Harbor | The Blaze ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13102-only-republicans-flip-flop.html Now Obam and Administration gets Veterans Group to back Mosque at Ground Zero http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13101-now-obam-administration-gets-veterans-group-back-mosque-ground-zero.html Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:32:48 GMT You must read the entire article. It has many PROOF connections. In other words...facts.

And one major fact that smacks all Americans in the face is the fact that our Military is being drawn into this "religious" right.

The Constitution states "Separation between Church and State". Meaning the Government can not mandate a religion. You are free to practice your religion. Military has nothing to do with it.

This is a scare tactic to those who serve and their family members that worry. Oh so we build mosques and our soldiers will be a little more safe overseas?

How's that work? We have mosques in this country and our soldiers are still dying overseas because of the SAME groups building these mosques in this Country.

And you say Republicans only use Fear tactics? Yea right. I would not be surprised if these soldiers were threatened with another tour or loss of benefits if they did not cooperate. Sorry that's what this Administration has brought me to think.

New Zeal: Soros/Obama/Democrat Connected "Veterans Group" Backs "Ground Zero Mosque"


BTW: you do need to go outside this Country to obtain facts because the Obama Administration is controlling the media. You would never see this on tv or newspaper in this Country. Remember Obama states: Facts are just a distraction. ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13101-now-obam-administration-gets-veterans-group-back-mosque-ground-zero.html Hawaii law bars release of original birth certificates? http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13100-hawaii-law-bars-release-original-birth-certificates.html Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:46:39 GMT Boy that's strange. For a document you need to get a driver's license, a social security card, etc. And no copies are allowed.

So what gives here? And since when does Hawaii STATE law OVERRIDE federal law?

Oh just this one time for this issue?

Just show your birth certificate. You know why you won't? You were not born in this Country or Hawaii.

Amazing, all beat up Bush for his service record demanding that he show that he actually serve so that he could be Commander in Chief?

And anyone can put notices in the paper. So where is the Federal Government here on this broken federal law? If you can't show it, you got something to hide. Like lying about where you were born.

(CNN) -- A judge on Thursday denied a request for President Barack Obama to testify at a court martial for a U.S. Army flight surgeon who refused to deploy to Afghanistan until he saw proof that Obama was born in the United States.

The judge, Army Col. Denise Lind, said any evidence or witnesses related to Obama's citizenship is irrelevant to the charges against Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who has 17 years of service in the U.S. military.

After failing to deploy with his unit in April, Lakin was charged with missing a movement, disobeying a lawful order and dereliction of duty.

The Uniform Code of Military Justice says the maximum punishment for both offenses -- missing his plane and disobeying lawful orders -- is a dishonorable discharge and up to two years in confinement. A guilty verdict could also result in forfeiture of Lakin's pay, which totals $7,959 a month, according to a charge sheet provided by a group sponsoring his defense.

Lakin's lawyers argued that all military orders stem from the commander-in-chief. Without evidence that Obama is eligible to be president, they say, the doctor's deployment order was illegal.

In addition to putting Obama on their witness list, Lakin's lawyers had asked Lind to order Obama's official birth records from Hawaii be brought to court for trial.

"If the president is ineligible, you need to know that," Lakin's civilian attorney, Paul Jensen, told Lind. "Col. Lakin needs to know that, the government needs to know that, America needs to know that."

The prosecutors in the case argued that Obama's eligibility is not relevant because the officers who ordered Lakin to go to Fort Campbell and then ordered him to answer questions about why he didn't go were his proper superiors in the military chain of command, and they gave him legal orders. Jensen later conceded that point.

The judge ruled that the matter of Obama's eligibility is not relevant because he did not give any orders in the case. She pointed out that while the president is commander-in-chief of the military, it is Congress that is constitutionally empowered to raise armies, pay them and equip them.

Any contention that any orders are invalid if the president is ineligible "is erroneous," the judge said.

Lind also said that military law says that a soldier's personal beliefs or convictions are not sufficient to allow that soldier to determine that an order is illegal. The soldier has to have "no rational doubt" that the order is illegal before he or she can ignore it.

Finally she ruled that a military court martial is not the forum in which to determine a president's eligibility, because the Constitution says only Congress has the power to impeach and remove the president.

Afterward, Jensen said he respected the judge's ruling, but called it distressing.

"It completely deprives us of any opportunity to present a defense in this case," Jensen said.

The court martial is set to begin in October, but Jensen said he's not giving up on the matter of Obama's eligibility.

"We will be giving the Army Court of Criminal Appeals in the next week or two the opportunity to take up the issue, and we are going to fight on for justice to be served in this case."

Lakin is among 27 percent of Americans who doubt or deny that Obama is American-born, according to a recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll. They compose the birther movement, which demands that Obama present a birth certificate signed by the doctor who delivered him in 1961.

CNN and other news organizations have thoroughly debunked the rumors about the president's birthplace. The Obama campaign released a copy of a state-issued birth record, called a "certificate of live birth," and allowed reporters to examine the document in person in 2008.

Last year, Hawaiian state officials issued a statement that they had personally viewed the president's original "certificate of live birth" and verified it to be authentic. State law bars the release of the original certificate. In addition, two Hawaiian newspapers ran notices in 1961 announcing Obama's birth in the state. ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13100-hawaii-law-bars-release-original-birth-certificates.html <![CDATA[It's all the Republican Men's Fault?]]> http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13099-its-all-republican-mens-fault.html Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:24:01 GMT Talk about political flatuience? Here's a big one.

Though the women mentioned in the article do make money and can support being single moms, the majority of single moms look to others to support them.

Actually tax dollars.

And regarding little girls looking for Prince Charming through Disney movies, maybe it's the parents, actually the moms that should set these little girls straight.

You don't get EVERYTHING you want out of life. Life is not a Disney movie.

No re-runs.

But hey, this is a PC society. And look at what the little girls are actually doing. Blow jobs are not sex. Anal is not sex. And it's just being friends with privileges.

What a way to show our youth what relationships are all about. Hollywood is helping big time with this single-mom crap.

And O'Reilly is right. Hollywood is taking Dads out of everything. How wonderful.

This is not a sign of a faltering individual. This is a sign of a faltering society. Led by PC Liberals who think no one is right, no one is wrong. And it's all about them.

Aniston, O’Reilly Debate Over Single Parenthood and Other Celeb Moms - The Daily Beast ]]> Politics SAdams http://www.pennjersey.info/forums/politics/13099-its-all-republican-mens-fault.html