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Old 08-19-2008
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I don't ever remember Obama stating that he wanted to "negotiate" with terrorists Piney. Rather, I quite remember he stated that he wanted to open a dialog with the enemy, and that is quite different from negotiating. Simply put, you never will recognize the other side's understandings and point of view unless you talk to them. That does not mean negotiate with or appease, it simply means talk.

And as I have stated before, the enemy of us all is our unwillingness and inability to listen.

Are we so great and awesome that we cannot have a dialog with Iran? Or North Korea? Without dialog only two things can happen, either you war or you appease without talking (similar to what we have done with Russia in Georgia).

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McCain is a quasi-conservative. We know pretty much what that means. We have seen his legislation. Some of it we like, some we don't like. But we KNOW he believes life begins at conception. We KNOW he doesn't support gay marriage. We KNOW he doesn't like high taxes.
Then explain something to me about the tax thing: why was he AGAINST (and adamantly so) Bush's tax cuts not once but TWICE?? Per a USA Today article on 12/23/07:

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McCain was one of two Republican senators to vote against a $1.35 trillion tax cut that Bush proposed in 2001. McCain also voted against similar plans in 2003, as well as a proposed repeal of the federal estate tax. McCain said they disproportionately benefited the wealthy.
So now, less than 5 years after his last vote on taxes, we are supposed to believe that he now FAVORS tax cuts? I don't buy it one bit.

As far as the other social issues, I don't care about them as I feel strongly that government need stay out of them all. There is no "but" or "except" at the end of that statement either.

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We KNOW McCain at least has a chance of keeping us safe.
How do you KNOW this to be true? How can John McCain stop an individual bent on blowing something up? How can McCain stop anything from happening? Hell, the only reason morons like Richard Reid didn't succeed had nothing to do with Bush and his "security", it was passengers with some moxy and an idiot terrorist wanna be who couldn't even untie his shoes right.

Security is an "illusion" and therefore the thought that McCain can keep us any safer than destiny or a good .45 strapped to our waist is an illusion as well. Bush has not stopped one terrorist attack, law enforcement comprised of liberals, conservatives, moderate, independents, republicans and democrats have stopped them. A different mindset in American culture has stopped them (many forget that Clinton made the funding first available under what was called "Domestic Preparedness" funding...few agencies tapped into it).

Oh, and for the record I can say the same for Obama on all points made above.
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